2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: I second that!

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: I have nothing though...I have no talents, not education, nothing...I won't accomplish anything in my life other than converting oxygen to carbon dioxide. AND I DON’T HAVE LOW SELF-ESSTEEM! (>.<) everyone says I do but I don’t! I just see the truth. I don’t try to disillusion myself into seeing something that is just not there.

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: You can make plans for education, 18 is not too old or anything. I bet you have many talents which you either don't recognise or haven't developed yet. You are a good poser and look good, you could even be a model. How come you think it's the truth when everyone tells you differently?

2004-10-29 [Fanta Boi]: You may not have low self esteem but still the truth is pieces we want to see. There is no person with no talents. You do have a talent, and in fact it's something that not many people have and that's why it's not recognised as a "talent". Gee, you let society define you too much... But because of the new talent you introduce to the world you're special as well :p Education does not come to you from the heavens, you can get it if you want to. There is no "cannot" only "i don't want it enough", for everything. And, for christ sake, you let people around you affect you too much!

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: because they don't see what i see. to be a model i would have to lose a lot of weight. i am trying, but it just doesn't seem to be happening. Paris Hilton is an inch taller than me and 20 lbs lighter...*hangs head sadly* and models need to be pretty, with good teeth, brests (i don't have any) and also, amazingly enough, they need an outgoing personality...a good portion of modeling is your interview. when i did model i always failed the interview, so regardless of how i looked at that time, i never won the competitions or deals because they said i didn't have the right "additude" and "confidence" they look for in their "models"

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: There is nothing wrong with the way you look now, you are very pretty. There are several sorts of models (and there are a lot of well known ones which frankly I do not find attractive no matter how thin they are). Lbs doesn't say everything, people can have the same bodystructure and still be heavier: that also has to do with the weight of your bones. You can become as thin as they are, and eventually have anorexia like they do, drugaddiction, fainting...it doesn't make them look better. I actually think you are already as thin as they are. And you even state so yourself: you failed the contests not because of your looks, but because of these negative thoughts about yourself.

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: that was 3 years ago...when i was 90 lbs and pretty...since the bastard doctors made me gain weight i have been turned away as too heavy...fucking doctors ruined my life....

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: well..seriously I weigh more than that, now about 114 lbs (converted from kilo at the top of my head), do you think I'm fat? 90 lbs is about 45 kilo's: that's not much! that's the normal weight of a 12 year old!

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: i was happy...i *liked* being being 5foot two and 90 lbs. i wore size zero size pants, and i liked the way i looked....

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: why did the docters make you gain weight then?

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: because i had a heart attack

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: how come?

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: my heart was overworked...i had a minor heart attack in gym

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: how did it get overworked? I mean, one would think the heart can take a little exercise..

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: my resting heart rate was 115 beats per minute when it should have been about 75. so i basically had a racing heart all the time, so when i did something, like play soccar in gym class and ran around, my heart sped up even more. so now my heart is, like, going way to fast. i colaped when my heart started spazzing out and skipping beats.

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: Okay, so how come you had a heartbeat of 115?

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: .you know your thyroid gland in your neck that controls your metabolism? well, mine was twice the size it should have been and it was sending out too much of the hormone thyroxin, causing me to lose massive amounts of weight and make me hungry all the time so that I would eat and eat and eat all I wanted and was unable to break 95 pounds. Another side effect of too much thyroxin is a racing heart.

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: :S

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: was that too confusing? i simplified it as best i could...

2004-10-29 [Sunrose]: No not confusing, just doesn't sound pleasant to me..

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: i didn't mind. all it meant was i got to ride the elevator instead of takeing the stairs in school (we have 4 floors) but the doctors decided it would be best to just kill my thyroid gland and put me on a manmade hormone instead. when they did radiation tharopy and killed the glaned i went from 93 lbs to 145 lbs in 3 months...yah, then i tried to kill myself...

2004-10-29 [1st Font]: perhaps being used to eating when ever you wanted to stuck with you?

2004-10-29 [RabidSphinx]: yah, just a *little*....i hate doctors...refused to see one for a long time...fuckers ruining peoples lives. i lost 15 lbs, thank GOD but i still have 15 more to lose but i seem to be stuck here...it is truely annoying...

2004-11-02 [RabidSphinx]: yall die or something? *looks around the quiet wiki* heeeelllloooooo.......!

2004-11-02 [Young J.C.]: Nope.

2004-11-02 [Sunrose]: *^^*

2004-11-10 [suneta]: all virgin, all the time ~^_^~

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: Yup!

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: Can you even be a virgin -not-all-the-time-? :p

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: On weekends, I don't like to be, and sometimes on thursday also...

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: lol! then you are not a real virgin...but who am I to judge mwahaha

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: I never had sex... I'm a true virgin.

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: Not saying there is any other kind of virgin.

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: there probably is...anyway....it almost sounded like you made exceptions for weekens and thursdays! :p

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: I was trying to go alond with your joke... :P

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: ;)

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: I thouht you may have known that Sun... :P

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: I put the banner on the page, if anyone is opposed than take it down. I made it for anyone to use. ^.^

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: Hehehe, well I know you said you are a virgin! :p

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: i like the banner thanx

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: np

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: Such a banner has been suggested before: talk to [Fanta Boi] before you post it :)

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: sunrose.. why did you take it off?

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: You like it and it dissapears....why? Sunrose...you took it off. hmm

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: Oh yeah... a virgin... :P

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: 23:38:38 Sunrose: Such a banner has been suggested before: talk to [Fanta Boi] before you post it :)

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: [Young J.C.]: hahaha!

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: whatever...

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: ahhh ic, well the owner of the page wan't posted. and I missed that sorry.

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: uh yes [~*~Tethryn~*~]: it's his wiki after all so you have no say, sorry.

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: i didnt even say i did thank you very much

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: You can check who made the wiki by going to the first version :)

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: thats alot of work though

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: [~*~Tethryn~*~]: relax! I merely stated that the banner can't be put up as official banner unless FBI approves. Now that isn't such a big deal now is it?

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: No actually, you only have to put in the number version you want and click 'View'

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: Yes I know...didn't think of that thoe. There should be a note on the page than. I mean just saying if you made a banner and all that there. ^.^

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: ok.... thanx for the memo... but you said it to me like i said something wrong.. all i said was "Whatever" its a free country and if i feel like saying "whatever i will"

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: [~*~Tethryn~*~]: don't worry about I just went and asked the owner. If it dosn't get put up it's no big deal.

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: it's because 'whatever' doesn't sound too nice, allmost pissed off even.. :) // nah, you can see it because he's the first one on the list ;)

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: i know and i aint complaining..

2004-11-10 [RabidSphinx]: wow...i take a short nap and i'm completely lost...what's going on? what banner?

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: *hugs*

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: Owners do change...there are variables...meh this is rather pointless now I sent it to the owner :)

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: lol! yay!

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: So how is everyone? just a nice little subject change...

2004-11-10 [RabidSphinx]: something about a banner and owners? what the hell? um...i must have missed something...*is confused* i still hate that little dancing lady thing...WTF? she hardly looks virgin...

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: Don't worry about it ^.^ it's getting cleared up. I wasn't supose to put my banner on the page without asking the owner and I didn't know.

2004-11-10 [RabidSphinx]: oh...hmmm...okay

2004-11-10 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: i hate it too....

2004-11-10 [RabidSphinx]: why not something sweet and virgin-y like?

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: Damn you people wrote to much...

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: [Fanta Boi] likes it and I do too! :D

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: haha, stay with us Jump!

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: It was sweet....I think....

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: *smiles* thank you ^.^

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: what was sweet?

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: I was somewhere else now... and all of this happened...

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: Bahebec, you're reading the wrong things related to other posts!

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: people are talking about the dancing lady thing now!

2004-11-10 [Young J.C.]: Oh... that's boring :P

2004-11-10 [Sunrose]: what is?

2004-11-10 [RabidSphinx]: yah, and i don't like her...she annoys and sickens me...

2004-11-10 [Alexander The Great]: Alrighty than

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: lol, bahebec she's again talking about the dancing lady!

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: Yes that isn't very viginy

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: Arn't we...alright Now I got it. sorry...

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: Well there is the 'I don't have to have sex to be sexy' saying. But I guesse the danceing lady is a little to far gone for some.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: This is elfpack so we are allowed to be a little perverted and different, that's why it says 'proud to be a fucking virgin' and that's also why I'm on the page...which I'm not supposed to be..

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: yah, the dancing lady, when seen in someones house, sends the wrong message...i thought it belonged to the "i love to cyber" wiki or whatever it is called..."proud to be a virgin" was the last thing i thought...

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: he he yes that is true. But Like I said to far gone for Some not all.

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: Diffrent people prefer diffent things.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Hehehe, well then maybe elfpack is not the right place for them.. :)

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: then have a second banner for those uf us that don't bloody like it! you have any idea how many banners *I* had to make for the anti-suicide wiki before everyone was happy? i think there are, like, 8 banners there...what's the deal with one of the owners putting up a non offencive banner for those of us that take are virginity seriously?

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Because the owner of this wiki decides what's supposed to be on this wiki: if you don't like it then don't be here or become a member. That's just reality..

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: I did make a diffent banner, it's in my house. But it is up to the owner to decide what goes on this wiki.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: then i am no longer a member....this wiki is a joke....

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: I'm off to bed now! whee!

2004-11-11 [Alexander The Great]: goodnight.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Well the members on it are actually virgins, except me so I've heard, so if you consider it a joke that's your choice. However humor is not forbidden..

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: i don't see any "humor" on this page...

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: I do, you have to try and take things more lightly...I have laughs many times on here... :)

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: i guess i just don't find certain things funny....

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: HAHA! Not funny huh?

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: *glomps Jump* :P

2004-11-11 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: humor? where? :P

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Damn... I still don't know what a glomp is...

2004-11-11 [~*~Tethryn~*~]: lol

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: What?

2004-11-11 [Analeyin]: HEY! Real Virgin Pride

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Is there a fake virgin?

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Glomping is a sort of hug...apparantly there are fake virgins...*hides*

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: wtf!! wots s3v3erli viginul??

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: hehehe...another virgin wiki? hahaha...now people are going to start making "proud to be a whore" wiki or something...hehehe...oh well...anyone else here hungry? i'm strarvin'

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: lol! maybe there should be, this is elfpack after all! Technically if you have been raped you are not a virgin though...

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: oh...

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Depends on how you look at it: technically (again) a virgin is someone who never had sex and sex is intercourse between two people. If you have been raped then you had intercourse aka sex and are therefore not a virgin. Now on the matter of voluntarily having sex and learning what you like about it, you could be considered a virgin if you have never done that and been raped once. It depends on ones view on the meaning of a virgin: the technical/physical one or emotional one..

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: oh...

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: :)

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: :/

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: :)

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I've heard a lot of people being raped... doeasn't anyone do anything about it?

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: what do you want to do about it? zip the girl up with a thread and needle??

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: No, but fight back. That is a crazy thought Sun.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: Well, the problem is, you can claim rape, but can you prove it? A lot of times its his word against hers, whether there is no physical evidence (semen or bruising), or a matter of is he/she consented to the sex or not...a lot of times they just *can't* book the guy/ girl for rape because of the lack of sufficient evidence...there are a lot of false claims of rape too that people are naturally skeptical of the guy or girl is telling the truth. Plus men and woman that are actually raped feel ashamed, hurt, dirty, scared, and don’t know who to turn to for help…sometime he or she are too young to realize that they need to press charges, or blame themselves, thinking it was something that they

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: had done that caused it, like being at a party they were not supposed to be at and got raped and don’t want to get in trouble…sometimes they were drinking or doing something else that could possible get them in trouble so they are afraid to go to the police…

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: keeping rape a secret from people who care... not smart.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: have you ever been raped? have you ever felt the pain and shame of having to admit to someone that you were violated? you have *any* idea how hard it is to even comprehend what had happened to you! it isn't like, damn i was raped, i should tell my dad....it's so increadably painful and you feel dirty, and like it was your fault that it happened to begin with...the ones you love are the hardest to tell!

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: The cops... do you love them?

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: yes i love them...and the cops are cold, ununderstanding, and scary

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: See how shitty the USA is then?

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: the police are just as scary everywhere else. the fact is, you don't want to tell your family about it because you are ashaimed, and you don't want to tell the cops because your afraid...don't diss the states...or get out...because i am proud of this country...

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I've been trying to get out of the states dammit! I don't want to be with a government worst then terroist.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: alright then...move to iraq or any of those countries and see how much *better* their lives are...in the mean time...shut up about a country that i love

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Japan!

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: you have the money to live there? that is an insanely expensive place to live, and they are Ethnosentric and they don't treat westerners nicely...

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Oh well... off to Canada.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Fight back? Fight back how [Young J.C.]? And who is supposed to fight back?

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Do something about it. Don't just sit there and be scared.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: easy for you to say...easy for anyone to say who has not been in that situtation...

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: What do you mean sit there and be scared? Afterwards? During? Before??

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Afterwards. Before, you haven't yet been raped. And if you could fight back during, that would also be good.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: LOL, that would be good if it were possible, which isn't always the case.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Now fighting back afterwards is easy for someone to say who hasn't been through it, so basically I hereby zip your mouth!

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: thank you [Sunrose] *huggles*

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: You're welcome! *snuggles* ;)

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: (^_^)

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Well, it's not my fault I am ugly and noone would rape me... :'(

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: you don't have to be pretty to be raped, just vonirable and in the wrong place at the wrong time...

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Oh yea Jump, like it's so great to be raped!!!

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I don't know, remember?

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Well after all that has been said you must know it isn't, else you're quite ignorant.. >_<

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Not ignorant. I hate rapeist.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: Maybe, but you don't know what it's like and almost said it might be a good thing: that makes you ignorant..

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: jumpsteady...anyone ever teach you when you should just stop talking to save your dignity?

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I never said it was a good thing.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: i will teach you now...jumpsteady...stop talking, before you make a *complete* ass of yourself....

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: *hugs [RabidSphinx]*

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I just hate fucking rapeist. Everytime I hear a story about someone getting rape, it pisses me off.

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: oh, first you don't see why a rape victim wouldn't fight back and then report the rape when they are emotionally distressed and scared, then you are sad that you have never been raped; claiming to be too ugly to have been, now you hate rapists.….jumpsteady = ass...

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I was kidding about the me being raped part. I have always hates rapeist.

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: [RabidSphinx]: you kicks ass! :D

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: just quit while you're behind jumpsteady....and thank you [Sunrose] you're my new best buddy. (^_^)

2004-11-11 [Sunrose]: yay! :D

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: *dances*

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: Behind, what do you mean?

2004-11-11 [RabidSphinx]: you know the saying, "quit while you're ahead"? well, you were *never* ahead, so i told you to quit while you were behind..

2004-11-11 [Young J.C.]: I know... jeez. But, god, nevermind.

2004-11-12 [Fanta Boi]: for christ's sake, it's rapist !!!!

rapist

2004-11-12 [Sunrose]: *giggles* I think Jump will get this message for sure!

2004-11-12 [Fanta Boi]: what are you doind here, aren't you at work? :p

2004-11-12 [Sunrose]: err..*hides* I am... :D

2004-11-12 [Fanta Boi]: hahaha :P cute

2004-11-12 [Sunrose]: :P

2004-11-12 [RabidSphinx]: i am not in school...but shhhhh...don't tell my daddy...(^_^)

2004-11-12 [Sunrose]: :o

2004-11-12 [RabidSphinx]: i'm "sick"

2004-11-12 [Fanta Boi]: i'm sick

2004-11-12 [Sunrose]: *hugs fanta* aaaahw

2004-11-12 [RabidSphinx]: awww...*pats Fanta boi on the top of the head*

2004-11-12 [Young J.C.]: Dammit... can't believe I spelled it work...

2004-11-13 [RabidSphinx]: i can't spell to save my life...i am not the brightest crayon in the box...

2004-11-16 [paulvanderpool]: This shit is fuuny...

2004-11-16 [Sunrose]: *^____^*

2004-11-19 [bmangoose9]: u people need physcological help

2004-11-19 [bmangoose9]: just jokin

2004-11-19 [RabidSphinx]: naw, i think she does, but then again, we all do...what's your point? *glares* lol

2004-11-19 [Sunrose]: ^^

2004-11-20 [Avaz]: Yeah, that would be nice ;P

2004-11-20 [Sunrose]: what would be nice [Avaz]?

2004-11-20 [Avaz]: Getting psychological help. Sorry I didn't clarify that sooner, hehe

2004-11-20 [Sunrose]: you can always come to me.. ;)

2004-11-20 [Avaz]: I come to you for tension relief, but not of the mental variety, hehe ^_~;

2004-11-20 [Sunrose]: I can serve both! I'm that good! ;)

2004-11-20 [Avaz]: Ah, so in between moans and heavy sighs, I can tell you about my childhood too? Wow, now that's what I call multitasking! :P

2004-11-20 [Sunrose]: uhm yes! I do a lot of multitasking actually, so this is just a minor extra task! ;)

2004-11-20 [RabidSphinx]: hey! this is virgin pride!! no making sex deals here! lol

2004-11-20 [Avaz]: Oh yeah, lol *^_^* My bad. I apologize if I have raped all your virgin eyes with my comments. :P

2004-11-20 [Sunrose]: *ROFLMAO*

2004-11-21 [RabidSphinx]: lol...i can't say i have virgin eyes...but none of that here kk love? (^_-)

2004-11-21 [Pussycat]: To quote "Sex is natural, sex is fun". Ah, George Michael.... He was so hott ;) Don't have virgin eyes?? *smarmy grin* Someone either put a penis in them or came in them, eh? ;)